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pity he wasn't, hillary clinton said we were not conveying this to the white house. is ignorance and excuse? >> ignorance should be grounds for resignation. if you can have a hole drilled in the wall of a consulate a very sensitive part of the world and the president of the united states don't find out about it, the whole national security apparatus is a disaster. neil: stick around, we will have more rudy giuliani after this. these are fast breaking developments but you get an idea why we're paying attention it is almost as if a lot of security wraps jumping ship, they are expreesing exacerbation with what they say was not a failure on their part, they did all thee had to do and all i wanted to do to warn higher-ups of impending problems in and ghazi. ongoing security concerns in libya itself and now they're coming out to say these for folks who died, we did our best to warn. what makes the back-and-forth different is that it is not fox reporting it, not just us, this crazy island of traffic reporters. now the main street media has caught on. this doesn't look good.
pity he wasn't, hillary clinton said we were not conveying this to the white house. is ignorance and excuse? >> ignorance should be grounds for resignation. if you can have a hole drilled in the wall of a consulate a very sensitive part of the world and the president of the united states don't find out about it, the whole national security apparatus is a disaster. neil: stick around, we will have more rudy giuliani after this. these are fast breaking developments but you get an idea why...
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. >> plus, secretary of state hillary clinton moves to distance the white house from the attack that killed the libyan ambassador chris stevens. details on these stories and more in just a moment. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is speaking out about the deadly terror attack in libya that killed ambassador chris stevens. she says ultimately she is responsible for embassy and consulate security and not the white house. secretary clinton is addressing the controversy after republicans criticized the obama administration for a lack of security at the consulate. danielle nottingham has more. there's still little information about who i tacked the u.s. -- who attacked the u.s. consulate in benghazi. just weeks before the presidential election, secretary of state hillary clinton says she alone is responsible for keeping u.s. diplomats safe. >> i want everybody to know we're going to get to the bottom of this and when we do, that information will all be public and people will be able to draw their own conclusions. >> reporter: three separate investigations are under way to find out w
. >> plus, secretary of state hillary clinton moves to distance the white house from the attack that killed the libyan ambassador chris stevens. details on these stories and more in just a moment. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is speaking out about the deadly terror attack in libya that killed ambassador chris stevens. she says ultimately she is responsible for embassy and consulate security and not the white house. secretary clinton is addressing the controversy after...
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hing it an effort by president barack obama and vice president bide ton say no it was really secretary clinton and the state department you ought to be looking at and talking to and criticizing here as opposed to us in the white house. i'm not sure that that is sustainable. frankly, i think that the buck does stop in the oval office. and we will see. on top of that, though, chris, maybe even more important is two weeks after the attacks the president of the united states stood in the well of the united nations and talked about the you tube video six times. and did not say that these attacks were an acts of terrorism or a terrorist attack. but again continued in six fferent instances citing a youtube video. >> chris: what is behind all this? does governor romney believe that the president is engaged in a political coverup? >> governor romney believes that in order for us as a country to be more secure we need to learn from the lessons here of benghazi. we need to know what happened going into the terrorist attack. >> chris: for give me, you are ducking my question which is why does he think tha
hing it an effort by president barack obama and vice president bide ton say no it was really secretary clinton and the state department you ought to be looking at and talking to and criticizing here as opposed to us in the white house. i'm not sure that that is sustainable. frankly, i think that the buck does stop in the oval office. and we will see. on top of that, though, chris, maybe even more important is two weeks after the attacks the president of the united states stood in the well of...
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from the mcgregors, 'e lovex >>> president bill clinton is introducing president barack obama at t clinton gbal iative. s ate pde clinton. >> as a community organizer. and then he picked secretary of state who was a walking ngo. and so i'm vyratelte made time to join us here today. he gave an important speech at the united nations earlier about all the things that are going on in the world and i am particularly appreciative of what he came here to speak about today, so mr. president, the dium is yours ananks for migain >>. [ applause ] >> thank you. thank you so much. thank you. thank you. thank you very much. thk you, twice. twice. thank you. appreciate it. please, everybody have a seat. well, good afternoon, everybody. and president clinton, thank you for your very kd introduction, althghavad i really did like the speech a few weeks ago a little bit better. afterwards, somebody tweeted that -- somebody needs to make ings.ecretary of explaining although they didn't use the word things. prident clinton, you are a tireless, passionate advocate on behalf of what's best in our country. you ha
from the mcgregors, 'e lovex >>> president bill clinton is introducing president barack obama at t clinton gbal iative. s ate pde clinton. >> as a community organizer. and then he picked secretary of state who was a walking ngo. and so i'm vyratelte made time to join us here today. he gave an important speech at the united nations earlier about all the things that are going on in the world and i am particularly appreciative of what he came here to speak about today, so mr....
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more than president bush and more to president clinton. president obama has actually done more. >> i've heard that. and the prime minister has said that on occasion let me ask you about the latino vote. it's a powerful vote this year. you've got the latest telemundo number. obama at 70%. look at that number. i don't think any other community is like that. >> wow. >> 25% for romney/ryan. what is that about? is that about the attempt by the president to get into executive order? what is it? >> it's about the dream act, it's about being more progressive, about immigration. i'm the grandson of a greek immigrant who came to this country and had nothing. this is a time when america said, bring us your poor and tired and you'll have an opportunity to succeed and do well for you and your family, if you come to america and work hard and live by the rules. all of a sudden we hear from the hard right that we don't want people to come here. >> self-deportation? >> who talks about that? >> he does. >> govern for romney. >> that and the win for bil clin
more than president bush and more to president clinton. president obama has actually done more. >> i've heard that. and the prime minister has said that on occasion let me ask you about the latino vote. it's a powerful vote this year. you've got the latest telemundo number. obama at 70%. look at that number. i don't think any other community is like that. >> wow. >> 25% for romney/ryan. what is that about? is that about the attempt by the president to get into executive order?...
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. >> at first cnn cited one source an aide to secretary clinton, they. they gave a furious statement by failing assurances reportedly gave to his family to return the journal. cnn executives dispute. that now enter michael hastings best known for having written the story for rolling stone a few years back that resulted in the resignation of stanley mcchrystal. he e-mailed, quote, why does the state department search the consulate and find the diary first. what other potential valuable intelligence was left behind? was any classified or top secret material also left? on classified material the answer is no, rinus shot back at him. you might want to ask cnn they took anything else from the crime scene. later on, why do you bother to ask questions you decided you know the answers to? why don't you hastings, fired back, aren't answers that are bs. and i understand why the investigation by the department of defense as reported by the "washington post" concluded beyond the doubt are unmitigated blank hole. how is that for a response. now, we have gotten that o
. >> at first cnn cited one source an aide to secretary clinton, they. they gave a furious statement by failing assurances reportedly gave to his family to return the journal. cnn executives dispute. that now enter michael hastings best known for having written the story for rolling stone a few years back that resulted in the resignation of stanley mcchrystal. he e-mailed, quote, why does the state department search the consulate and find the diary first. what other potential valuable...
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friends and colleagues, secretary of state hillary clinton says his legacy will live on. >> he was an inspiration to all who knew him during his life. he remains an inspiration now and i believe far into the future. >> reporter: nearly two months since the attack, officials are looking into the incident and working to improve safety protocols. >> we now have a formal accountability review board investigating the attack that killed chris and we will apply its recommendations and lessons learned to improving security everywhere. >> reporter: his sister earned a standing ovation as she accepted his award on his behalf. she also revealed some personal details about her brother. >> his enaging personality, how many of my girlfriends had crushes on him, enabled him to cross the cultural divide with ease. he enjoyed talking to people from all walks of life and was keen to understand the thoughts and worries of those he met. >> reporter: several congressional committees will hold classified hearings on the matter next year. >>> it was a circus of sorts in downtown d.c. tonight. members of pet
friends and colleagues, secretary of state hillary clinton says his legacy will live on. >> he was an inspiration to all who knew him during his life. he remains an inspiration now and i believe far into the future. >> reporter: nearly two months since the attack, officials are looking into the incident and working to improve safety protocols. >> we now have a formal accountability review board investigating the attack that killed chris and we will apply its recommendations...
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the president was joined by his national security team including secretary of state hillary clinton. overseas protests spread across 17 different countries in the middle east as anger mounted over a strange and mysterious and very low-budget film denigrating the prophet muham d muhammad. in cairo, one protester was killed today in a clash with police blocking the way to the u.s. embassy. we'll be monitoring the events in the middle east and will bring you developments immediately. back here, there has been a key question since the romney/ryan ticket launched their attack on the obama administration's handling of the events in libya and egypt. that question is, what would they is done differently? and the answer, according to the romney/ryan campaign, is if we were in charge, it never would have happened. and why wouldn't it have happened? one word. resolve. richard williamson, a romney foreign policy adviser said, quote, the respect for america has gone down. there's not a sense of american resolve. if there had been, then, quote, you'd be in a different situation. vice presidential
the president was joined by his national security team including secretary of state hillary clinton. overseas protests spread across 17 different countries in the middle east as anger mounted over a strange and mysterious and very low-budget film denigrating the prophet muham d muhammad. in cairo, one protester was killed today in a clash with police blocking the way to the u.s. embassy. we'll be monitoring the events in the middle east and will bring you developments immediately. back here,...
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hillary clinton says she takes the responsibility for what happened in benghazi. >> i do everything i can to protect our people and i wanted to make sure we track on down whoever did this. >> it comes a day before the second presidential debate. where the president for the first time takes responsibility, too. then goes after romney. >> the day after the attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden. i told the american people that this was an act of terror and the suggestion that anybody in my team would play politics ornr of our own governor is offensive. >> that set off an exchange that may go down as one of the most remarkable in the history of televised presidential debates. >> you said in the rose garden it was an act of terror. it was not a spontaneous demonstration. >> please proceed, governor. >> i want to make sure we get to that for the record. it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> he did in fact. let me call it an act of terror. he did call it an act of terror. >> only after the debate maybe she was the one with her facts
hillary clinton says she takes the responsibility for what happened in benghazi. >> i do everything i can to protect our people and i wanted to make sure we track on down whoever did this. >> it comes a day before the second presidential debate. where the president for the first time takes responsibility, too. then goes after romney. >> the day after the attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden. i told the american people that this was an act of terror and the suggestion...
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at the clinton global initiative. meanwhile, president obama and governor romney also spoke at nbc's education nation summit. big times. we will discuss their remarks. also paul ryan weighs in on the last night's nfl controversy and brings it back to, guess who, president obama. all of that is next on "now." want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, sharing what you know. let's do it grandpa. that's why humana agents will sit down with you, to listen and understand what's important to yo
at the clinton global initiative. meanwhile, president obama and governor romney also spoke at nbc's education nation summit. big times. we will discuss their remarks. also paul ryan weighs in on the last night's nfl controversy and brings it back to, guess who, president obama. all of that is next on "now." want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's...
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secretary clinton was eloquent. this was a vicious attack, and career diplomats were killed, and the ambassador himself was somebody on the street and committing his life. this is a political moment in a campaign where the romney folks are trying to exploit this for their own advantage. they were unpersuasive in their case and undignified in their approach. >> thank you so much for being with us. >>> chuck, i was just handed a statement that u.s. officials tell nbc news the marines are preparing to send as many as 200 marines to libya to bolster security around the u.s. embassy. we cannot ignore the security issues at play here or the political emphrau indications. there was always a possibility that some world event would happen that would suddenly come up. >> let's remember, you know, the arab spring is -- we don't know how this is going to end. and that was something that you heard from governor romney. it's part of the debate he wants to have with president obama which is specifically the handling of the arab sp
secretary clinton was eloquent. this was a vicious attack, and career diplomats were killed, and the ambassador himself was somebody on the street and committing his life. this is a political moment in a campaign where the romney folks are trying to exploit this for their own advantage. they were unpersuasive in their case and undignified in their approach. >> thank you so much for being with us. >>> chuck, i was just handed a statement that u.s. officials tell nbc news the...
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here is hillary clinton. >> yesterday our post in libya was attacked. heavily armed militants attacked the compound and set fire to the buildings. american and libyan security personnel battled the attackers together. four americans were killed. they included sean smith, a foreign service information management officer, and our ambassador to libya, chris stevens. we are still making next of kin notifications for the other two individuals. this is an attack that should shock the conscience of people of all faiths around the world. we condemn in the strongest terms this senseless act of violence and we send our prayers to the families, friends and colleagues of those we've lost. all over the world every day americans risk our lives in the service of our countries and values. because they believe that the united states must be a force for peace and progress in the world. that these aspirations are worth striving and sacrificing for. alongside our men and women in uniform they represent the best traditions of a bold and generous nation. in the lobby of this
here is hillary clinton. >> yesterday our post in libya was attacked. heavily armed militants attacked the compound and set fire to the buildings. american and libyan security personnel battled the attackers together. four americans were killed. they included sean smith, a foreign service information management officer, and our ambassador to libya, chris stevens. we are still making next of kin notifications for the other two individuals. this is an attack that should shock the conscience...
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secretary of state hillary clinton says she takes responsibility in benghazi. i want to make sure we track down hoefr did this and comes to justice. >> she went a day before the second presidential debate where the president takes responsibility too then goes after romney. >> the day after the attack, governor, i today in the rose garden and i told the american people this was an act of terror and the suggest he would may politics or just leave. >> that is off ton an exchange as one of the most remarkable with tell wised debate. >> you said in the proz rose garden it was not a spon dane russ. l >> plead oo please proceed. >> it took him 11 days before he called it an act of terror. >> he did in fact, sir. >> he did call it an act of terror. >> only after the debate does crowley admit maybe she was the one with her facts wrong. charles krauthammer was part of the debate coverage that night. >> she walked away from it. it was np front of 67 million people not knowing anything she walks away. >> clinton ordered admin story. ambassador stevens was increasingly worr
secretary of state hillary clinton says she takes responsibility in benghazi. i want to make sure we track down hoefr did this and comes to justice. >> she went a day before the second presidential debate where the president takes responsibility too then goes after romney. >> the day after the attack, governor, i today in the rose garden and i told the american people this was an act of terror and the suggest he would may politics or just leave. >> that is off ton an exchange...
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back in 1996 had all voters voted based on our estimate, clinton would have beat dole by 15 points and he only won in the high single turnout was disproportional to republicans an 1980 we had another democratic running and when the dust settled, ronald reagan won more than we or anybody else had said because the republicans were more energized and likely voters, trying to take into account the factors we mentioned, who will show up and who isn't is extremely important, particularly in an election like this which may have lower turnout than we saw in '08. >> chris: well, let's talk about the other big controversy, it isn't just for you but all pollsters. and that is the question of how do you weight by party. what percentage of publicans, what percentage of democrats, some people say do you use the 2008 model? as to how many -- what the percentage of republicans and democrats are or the 2010 model which is different? how do you weight by party. >> we do not weight by party at you a, we never have and don't now. we think party identification is an attitudinal variable that fluctuates lik
back in 1996 had all voters voted based on our estimate, clinton would have beat dole by 15 points and he only won in the high single turnout was disproportional to republicans an 1980 we had another democratic running and when the dust settled, ronald reagan won more than we or anybody else had said because the republicans were more energized and likely voters, trying to take into account the factors we mentioned, who will show up and who isn't is extremely important, particularly in an...
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hillary rodham clinton. [applause] >> thank you. thank you all. thank you very much. and a special word of thanks to a friend and someone who i admire greatly, general snowcroft. his many years of distinguished service to our country is a great tribute in every respect. thanks also to john alterman and csis for hosting this conference on maghreb transition and seeking stability in an era of uncertainty. i wish to acknowledge dr. tehrat for his involvement in this important conference and members of the diplomatic corps as well. what are we here? why is this conference so timely? to start with, what happens in this dynamic region has far reaching consequences for our own security and prosperity. we know very well that it is most important to the people of this region whose aspirations and ambition deserve to be met. but recent events have raised questions about what lies ahead, what lies ahead for the region, what lies ahead for the rest of us who have watched with great hope. the events that have unfolded. terrorist attack in benghazi, these and other scenes of anger
hillary rodham clinton. [applause] >> thank you. thank you all. thank you very much. and a special word of thanks to a friend and someone who i admire greatly, general snowcroft. his many years of distinguished service to our country is a great tribute in every respect. thanks also to john alterman and csis for hosting this conference on maghreb transition and seeking stability in an era of uncertainty. i wish to acknowledge dr. tehrat for his involvement in this important conference and...
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california and our entire state, we join president barack obama, secretary of state hillary rodham clinton, democratic leader nancy pelosi and expensive network of people in saluting ambassador chris stevens who will be remembered for his strong sense of dignity, his humility and his generous service to others. he will be truly missed by all who loved him and by all he served throughout the magnitude of his life's work. thank you for this honor. [applause] >>> members of christopher stevens family, ladies and gentlemen, let me first thank chris stevens' brothers and sisters for their warm and delightful insights into what he was really like. thank you so much. that was fantastic what you did for us. christopher stevens was obviously an extraordinary human being and contributor. every year at stanford we have a group of what we call national security fellows come. they were roughly army, navy, air force, state department. a couple weeks ago we had a meeting and the first person i called on was an army colonel. i said where were you last? he said in libya. i said did you know christopher ste
california and our entire state, we join president barack obama, secretary of state hillary rodham clinton, democratic leader nancy pelosi and expensive network of people in saluting ambassador chris stevens who will be remembered for his strong sense of dignity, his humility and his generous service to others. he will be truly missed by all who loved him and by all he served throughout the magnitude of his life's work. thank you for this honor. [applause] >>> members of christopher...
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it has about as much reliability and truthfulness as bill clinton's arithmetic. [applause] this week, as we have seen, there is a real war that is going on across the world. that is what i want to take my few moments that we have to data this morning -- i sit on the intelligence committee. we deal with the nation's classified secrets and this is a real issue. as we survey the political landscape today, it seems like it is deja vu all over again. we are seeing attacks on our embassy in a way we saw in the late 1970's. you would think jimmy carter was back in the white house again, would you? we are desperate for another ronald reagan. this time, i am sorry to say, it is even worse. the fires of radical islamic traditional limits -- traditionalism is not limited to one country. each week, our christian brothers and sisters from nigeria to kenya are being persecuted. when they go to church, they do not know if they will make it home afterwards. now the violence has come to us, the united states. on the anniversary of 911, no less. our libyan ambassador and his coura
it has about as much reliability and truthfulness as bill clinton's arithmetic. [applause] this week, as we have seen, there is a real war that is going on across the world. that is what i want to take my few moments that we have to data this morning -- i sit on the intelligence committee. we deal with the nation's classified secrets and this is a real issue. as we survey the political landscape today, it seems like it is deja vu all over again. we are seeing attacks on our embassy in a way we...
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secretary of state hillary clinton delivered remarks. >> chris stevens was an inspiration to all who served with him and knew him during his life. >> stevens earned the common ground award for conflict resolution, negotiation and peace building. his sister ann accepted the award on his behalf. stevens who grew up here in the bay area was killed along with three other americans in a terrorist attack in the u.s. consulate on september 11th. >>> san francisco police are trying to figure out how a man was fatally injured during a giant's celebration. john mofette says he was attacked but it's possible he may have been one of the people doing somersaults on the mattresses and could have hurt himself. he refused medical help and his roommate says that doesn't make sense. >> he came in. he looked like he had been in some sort of fight. he looked dishelpfulled and looked like there was a bruise or swelling on his cheek and he said the five guys had jumped him. >> police are investigating his death as suspicious. anyone with information is asked to call police. >>> oakland police are looking
secretary of state hillary clinton delivered remarks. >> chris stevens was an inspiration to all who served with him and knew him during his life. >> stevens earned the common ground award for conflict resolution, negotiation and peace building. his sister ann accepted the award on his behalf. stevens who grew up here in the bay area was killed along with three other americans in a terrorist attack in the u.s. consulate on september 11th. >>> san francisco police are trying...
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ambassador, christopher stevens, the secretary of state, hillary clinton, chose instead to rant about a phantom movie that may or may not exist. watch this. >> the united states government has nothing to do with this video. we absolutely reject its content and message. this video is disgusting and reprehensible. it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. >> sean: now, keep in mind, her movie critique came before she bothered to denounce the widespread vandalism, the arson, the gunfire and the molotov cocktails being directed at u.s. interest. what she and the president fail to recognize is the fact that the radical islamists who are protesting on the screen, they are not reacting to a movie. they haven't seen the movie. these are anti-american extremists who are hell bent on the destruction of this country. they are burning our flag, chanting death to america and spray-painted the name osama bin laden on the entrance to our embass necairo. not to mention the fact that all of this began on the anniversary of september 11, do you not
ambassador, christopher stevens, the secretary of state, hillary clinton, chose instead to rant about a phantom movie that may or may not exist. watch this. >> the united states government has nothing to do with this video. we absolutely reject its content and message. this video is disgusting and reprehensible. it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. >> sean: now, keep in mind, her movie critique came before she bothered to...
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dick morris is a former adviser to president clinton. good evening, dick. >> hi. well, i think that eye think absolutely, this is what happens when you have a weak presidency. maybe bush was too strong and the casualty there is that people start turning against the war. but obama is way too weak. and like with jimmy carter when the american president is weak, our enemies are going to take advantage of him. >> greta: how do we separate out that -- th crisis right now, we are looking at the beginnings of, we are looking at a from -- at a protest. how do we separate out the real crisis that the nation is facing tonight there and the political impact because this does have a political impact back home. it is used as a weapon, back and forth. >> i think that the administration has some explaining to do. there is a newspaper in britain, a credible source, the independent, which says that senior diplomatic officials in the united states report that we had 48 hours of warning of the libyan attack. and in any case, it doesn't take a genius to know that it is going to be se
dick morris is a former adviser to president clinton. good evening, dick. >> hi. well, i think that eye think absolutely, this is what happens when you have a weak presidency. maybe bush was too strong and the casualty there is that people start turning against the war. but obama is way too weak. and like with jimmy carter when the american president is weak, our enemies are going to take advantage of him. >> greta: how do we separate out that -- th crisis right now, we are looking...
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we have seen is an effort by president obama, and vice president biden to say, no, it was secretary clinton. the state department that you ought to be looking at and talking to and criticizing or questioning here, as opposed to us, in the white house. i'm not sure that that is sustainable, frankly, i think that the buck does stop at the -- in the oval office. and, you know, we'll see, on top of that, though, more important is, two weeks after the attacks the president of the united states stood in the well of the united nations and talked about the youtube video six times and did not say that these attacks were an act of terrorism. or a terrorist attack. but again continued for -- in six different instances citing a youtube video. >> chris: what is behind all of this? does the -- does governor romney believe that the president is engaged in a political cover-up? >> governor romney believes in order for us as a country to be more secure we need to learn from the lessons here of benghazi, we need to know what happens, going into the terrorist attacks and, what happened after. >> chris: you ar
we have seen is an effort by president obama, and vice president biden to say, no, it was secretary clinton. the state department that you ought to be looking at and talking to and criticizing or questioning here, as opposed to us, in the white house. i'm not sure that that is sustainable, frankly, i think that the buck does stop at the -- in the oval office. and, you know, we'll see, on top of that, though, more important is, two weeks after the attacks the president of the united states stood...
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today saying point blank, they do want a two step process for tax reform and raise the rates to the clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the feature and then maybe everyone can lower the rates at that time. it does seem like there is a lot of that going on. >> i think that the difference between what we are seeing now and in the past like this is you have the public posturing and by all accounts that is not happening right now. the fact that it is news, the president and the speciaker is amazing and it speaks to the conversations going on behind the scenes. democrats were saying for months and months, they realize that they have the leverage because at the end of the day, old tax rates are going to go up. they believe that republicans were going to say that they understand that they are losing the message war on this. he made a point to say it is not that they are not for raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> i spoke with george mitchell last night and i was about to say, in talking to them, it is like talking to adults, they are talking to people five or
today saying point blank, they do want a two step process for tax reform and raise the rates to the clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the feature and then maybe everyone can lower the rates at that time. it does seem like there is a lot of that going on. >> i think that the difference between what we are seeing now and in the past like this is you have the public posturing and by all accounts that is not happening right now. the fact that it is news,...